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	<title>Comments on: 3 Australia Lies to Customers about the iPhone</title>
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		<title>By: Geordie Barker</title>
		<link>http://www.edwarddowling.com/technology/3-australia-lies-to-customers-about-the-iphone/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>Geordie Barker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://blogs.smh.com.au/gadgetsonthego/archives/2008/07/telstra_improves_iphone_plans.html

very interesting commentry on the iphone situation from Sydney Morning Herald Blog, well worth a quick read!</description>
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<p>very interesting commentry on the iphone situation from Sydney Morning Herald Blog, well worth a quick read!</p>
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		<title>By: julian</title>
		<link>http://www.edwarddowling.com/technology/3-australia-lies-to-customers-about-the-iphone/#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator>julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it is going to come to 3. but they cannot publicly announce it because its  part of their terms and conditions to carry the handset in their network set by apple in negotiations with other networks. they didnt lie it would be definately coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is going to come to 3. but they cannot publicly announce it because its  part of their terms and conditions to carry the handset in their network set by apple in negotiations with other networks. they didnt lie it would be definately coming.</p>
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		<title>By: The MisInformed</title>
		<link>http://www.edwarddowling.com/technology/3-australia-lies-to-customers-about-the-iphone/#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>The MisInformed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 02:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly Three have apparently  pulled the comments down from the website.

It appears the site will be next.

TMiF</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly Three have apparently  pulled the comments down from the website.</p>
<p>It appears the site will be next.</p>
<p>TMiF</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.edwarddowling.com/technology/3-australia-lies-to-customers-about-the-iphone/#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have the LG viewty with 3, and it is a reasonable product, I just don't want to lose the built in camera. But at the end of my contract, I would be seriously considering switching to another service provider if they couldn't provide me with the iPhone.

And yes, you were lied to. Bad customer experience is worse than saying 'we are in discussions with them at the moment' because as this site shows, a bad experience gets out on the web and every can see it when looking for 3 iPhone Australia...

They should of briefed their staff better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the LG viewty with 3, and it is a reasonable product, I just don&#8217;t want to lose the built in camera. But at the end of my contract, I would be seriously considering switching to another service provider if they couldn&#8217;t provide me with the iPhone.</p>
<p>And yes, you were lied to. Bad customer experience is worse than saying &#8216;we are in discussions with them at the moment&#8217; because as this site shows, a bad experience gets out on the web and every can see it when looking for 3 iPhone Australia&#8230;</p>
<p>They should of briefed their staff better.</p>
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		<title>By: Thom</title>
		<link>http://www.edwarddowling.com/technology/3-australia-lies-to-customers-about-the-iphone/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>Thom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 04:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that you were lied to. The "definitely yes" and "coming in August" may well have been true at the time. Or they may have been so close to closing the deal that they felt it was fair to say this (risky, I admit, but they wouldn't be the first). I think it's all a marketing ploy and my main reason for thinking this is that Hutchison has snaffled the iPhone in other markets with no apparent difficulty.

Clearly 3 wasn't able to get the priority to be launching it on 11 July. (And I've read various theories about that.) And they don't want customers leaving because they can't wait a month or so to get the iPhone on 3. Yes, sure, they could have created an online signup form. Just like everyone else's. Yawn. 

I think the petition is meaningless as a petition. But as a way to generate more buzz around an online expression of interest process and to get free PR and to give their customers a chance to express their enthusiasm, impatience, whatever it's at least original and kind of clever.

What's going on exactly? I'd love to know as I too am a 3 customer and I'm not inclined to switch. It's true that it comes across as a bit dodgy, and I can respect your being cross about that. But if in other respects you're happy with 3's coverage and prices then don't be in rush to cancel your contract in a huff over a little marketing ploy. 

I think you can be sure they'll get the phone. Probably in August like they originally said. And when they do, the prices are going to be wildly better than what you could do on Optus or Vodafone. Check out the detailed analysis here*, and see what a great deal you have as a 3 customer and are likely to enjoy when the iPhone eventually reaches 3.
*http://forums.mactalk.com.au/53/49396-depth-look-3g-mobile-data-rates-australia.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t jump to the conclusion that you were lied to. The &#8220;definitely yes&#8221; and &#8220;coming in August&#8221; may well have been true at the time. Or they may have been so close to closing the deal that they felt it was fair to say this (risky, I admit, but they wouldn&#8217;t be the first). I think it&#8217;s all a marketing ploy and my main reason for thinking this is that Hutchison has snaffled the iPhone in other markets with no apparent difficulty.</p>
<p>Clearly 3 wasn&#8217;t able to get the priority to be launching it on 11 July. (And I&#8217;ve read various theories about that.) And they don&#8217;t want customers leaving because they can&#8217;t wait a month or so to get the iPhone on 3. Yes, sure, they could have created an online signup form. Just like everyone else&#8217;s. Yawn. </p>
<p>I think the petition is meaningless as a petition. But as a way to generate more buzz around an online expression of interest process and to get free PR and to give their customers a chance to express their enthusiasm, impatience, whatever it&#8217;s at least original and kind of clever.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s going on exactly? I&#8217;d love to know as I too am a 3 customer and I&#8217;m not inclined to switch. It&#8217;s true that it comes across as a bit dodgy, and I can respect your being cross about that. But if in other respects you&#8217;re happy with 3&#8217;s coverage and prices then don&#8217;t be in rush to cancel your contract in a huff over a little marketing ploy. </p>
<p>I think you can be sure they&#8217;ll get the phone. Probably in August like they originally said. And when they do, the prices are going to be wildly better than what you could do on Optus or Vodafone. Check out the detailed analysis here*, and see what a great deal you have as a 3 customer and are likely to enjoy when the iPhone eventually reaches 3.<br />
*http://forums.mactalk.com.au/53/49396-depth-look-3g-mobile-data-rates-australia.html</p>
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		<title>By: edward</title>
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		<dc:creator>edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 05:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the typo alert! 

Perhaps it is a marketing strategy, perhaps not. But it is a very poor one if it is, it only casts doubt and makes them seem desperate. If they had the phone, I would've thought a better approach would've been to have a "Do you want the iPhone? Fill out this form!". Instead, it makes Apple look like the bad guys which can't help their business arrangement. Apple are very secretive - the last thing they would want is to see a company who they are dealing with publicize it in this way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the typo alert! </p>
<p>Perhaps it is a marketing strategy, perhaps not. But it is a very poor one if it is, it only casts doubt and makes them seem desperate. If they had the phone, I would&#8217;ve thought a better approach would&#8217;ve been to have a &#8220;Do you want the iPhone? Fill out this form!&#8221;. Instead, it makes Apple look like the bad guys which can&#8217;t help their business arrangement. Apple are very secretive - the last thing they would want is to see a company who they are dealing with publicize it in this way.</p>
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		<title>By: Altavistagoogle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Altavistagoogle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 05:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typo alert. You put partition instead of petition.

By the way, I strongly suspect the petition is a marketing ploy by 3 Australia. They fully expect to get the iPhone (why wouldn't they) and this petition is to get customers "invoved" in the process. Granted, it is a ballsy strategy. I would have opted for the "we have better value phones" strategy, but whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typo alert. You put partition instead of petition.</p>
<p>By the way, I strongly suspect the petition is a marketing ploy by 3 Australia. They fully expect to get the iPhone (why wouldn&#8217;t they) and this petition is to get customers &#8220;invoved&#8221; in the process. Granted, it is a ballsy strategy. I would have opted for the &#8220;we have better value phones&#8221; strategy, but whatever.</p>
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